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On empathy and it's importance moving forward
#11
For me, empathy is not ethical and I avoid acting on it.  Empathy undermines my core belief of self-ownership.  I feel it's weakness like everyone and fall victim to it at times, but I make a concerted effort to purge empathy from my actions, decisions and thoughts.

I am a special case and I don't recommend that anyone torture themselves with such nihilism.

You are a community and you should respect each other especially when you feel no empathy.

RC is building a great forum where opinions flow very well.  I think he is making the suggestion that as a community, you should try harder to comprehend other opinions and while you may not always agree, you should consider the humanity of the person you may be attacking.
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#12
"For me, empathy is not ethical and I avoid acting on it.  Empathy undermines my core belief of self-ownership.  I feel it's weakness like everyone and fall victim to it at times, but I make a concerted effort to purge empathy from my actions, decisions and thoughts."

I have always intrinsically disliked you but could never figure out just where this came from. Thanks for crystalizing it for me. Now we know why 99, baa and no 2 are still on here after all this time. They've all been jettisoned from every forum they've ever been on. Why Rockchalker52 goes around rounding them up and bringing these ingrates back in after they submarine this forum -and he himself endlessly, I do not know.
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#13
(07-10-2017, 10:17 PM)BornAgainAmerican Wrote: Empathy is a euphemism for Liberal Elitism.  

Empathy is not hoping someone gets a leading role in a remake of a movie classic based solely on his skin color.  There's another name for that.  Empathy is not creating wasteful and corrupt big government programs to make you feel good about yourselves so you feel justified in your virtue signaling.  Empathy is about giving peeps a hand-up, not a hand-out.   

Dims never stop.  The entire reason for your being revolves around empathy, diversity, nuance...everything but, you know, WORK.

It's an endless numbing indoctrination with no right or wrong unless you cross one of their ever-changing boundaries of what is acceptable. At that very point you find out there really IS right and wrong and you are wrong!

Nothing is ever good enough, ever.  No one is ever tolerant enough, ever, and no space is never safe enough, ever.  The only happiness is the results that happen when white people are marginalized.  But it's only temporary as new victimization will be identified very soon and the cycle repeats itself.

Glad we have a loudmouth like President Trump.  At least there is one loud voice punching a hole in this bubble of PC insanity and empathy.

You have a lot of hang ups about skin color.  Never once did I suggest Idris Elba would be a good choice because of his race. 

Empathetic people are more likely to work hard for the betterment of themselves and their country than those who are not empathetic.  

It is you, sir, who is the would be elitist.  Your exclusionary views are ugly & troubling.  You're drinking way too much of that moonbattery racist kool-aid.
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Quote:You have a lot of hang ups about skin color.  Never once did I suggest Idris Elba would be a good choice because of his race. 


I asked for clarification of the reason why you hoped Idris Elba would be the next James Bond and you chose not to answer.  Knowing your political ideology and your recent revelations concerning your 'empathy' for a black childhood friend, I had to believe it was due to the color of his skin.  I'm willing to keep an open mind in this matter.  I'm extending yet another chance for you to clarify why you believe Mr. Elba would be the best choice for the role of James Bond.  

Quote:Empathetic people are more likely to work hard for the betterment of themselves and their country than those who are not empathetic.  


What you really mean here is that empathetic people hold progressive values and attempt to better themselves and their country through progressive (Socialist) ideas that have never worked before.  Also, the implication is that conservatives cannot be empathetic because they do not support your idea of empathy (Liberal Elitism).

Quote:It is you, sir, who is the would be elitist.  Your exclusionary views are ugly & troubling.  You're drinking way too much of that moonbattery racist kool-aid.


There's that R word again.  I believe in equal opportunity and I don't support the concept of a permanent government-supported underclass that destroys incentive and sucks the resources of a nation dry.  As previously stated, I believe in a hand-up...not a hand-out.  Teach a man to fish...
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(07-10-2017, 11:23 PM)Riverdrifter Wrote: "For me, empathy is not ethical and I avoid acting on it.  Empathy undermines my core belief of self-ownership.  I feel it's weakness like everyone and fall victim to it at times, but I make a concerted effort to purge empathy from my actions, decisions and thoughts."

I have always intrinsically disliked you but could never figure out just where this came from. Thanks for crystalizing it for me. Now we know why 99, baa and no 2 are still on here after all this time. They've all been jettisoned from every forum they've ever been on. Why Rockchalker52 goes around rounding them up and bringing these ingrates back in after they submarine this forum -and he himself endlessly, I do not know.
RC52, by his acts, may well in fact be the only true Christian on this here forum.


Most people don't like me for the same reason.   

You may see people from time to time that aren't your friends.  We don't ban people.  Most of us were banned from LJW a few times because of things we said, and I never really thought that was fair.  If it was unfair there, it is unfair here.  If we banned people for some reason, we should do it in a fair way and make everyone subject to the same rules,   The only fair reasons I see for banning are first and foremost trying to associate a member here with a real person or a member of another site, spam and porn.  

We have other means of moderation so we don't rely on the 'got disappeareded" method.   RC is often in a bind between one of you guys saying something other people don't like and me reminding him about how censorship sucks,   When he is tortured to the breaking point, I take over and without empathy I start soft-deleting the offenders threads.  If the user doesn't get he idea and continues to screw up, their posts go into a moderation queue.   RC can approve them or I can.  It site near the bottom of my to-do list.  It sits so near the bottom of my list I made a guest-posting sub forum for people to complain about it.


You mention 3 users and say you know why they are still here.  The real reason they are still here is the same reason you are still here.
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#16
Liberty, my Like on your top post was for everything that came after your first para.

I respect your right to choose to be that way, but it does ultimately hurt others and.... somehow it seems like something I just couldn't ever feel. Sure, it makes me cry sometimes for other people. While I want to say I hope you're joking, at least somewhat, I also sense at least a possibility that you're not joking, and even that makes me sad.

If sadness is what you're trying to avoid, may you be successful if that makes you happy. I'm just trying to figure out how you can experience happiness if you don't experience sadness. They're two ends of the same continuum. Smile

Is it possible to achieve one end of the continuum and block yourself from the other end? Seems like maybe you can. But what do I know? If I were your mom or gma I'd have to give you a big hug and maybe tickle your ribs to make you smile... so I could convince myself you CAN be happy even if you can't be sad.
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I will say... and most people won't agree with me... that I agree with Liberty on banning. Only if they are seriously destroying the site... hacking maybe... but as long as they're just expressing the ugliness in their own minds and hearts I can SO easily turn them off by putting them on ignore until I have a question that I want to know their answer to. 

It is very true that constantly quoting everything they say harms the site in that it doesn't allow you to ignore. I don't have a habit of looking at who posted before I start reading. I'm just not made that way. All people are human beings to me and, as such, are in one way, equal. That's why I would never do as Jess suggested and treat conservatives, as a group, differently than I treat progressives.  I always start out giving people, no matter who, the benefit of the doubt. I believe these 3 nincompoops (or is it more now... hard to tell... or less.. maybe just 2 people with lots of names) IN REAL LIFE would be valuable human beings with other things about them that are worthwhile, and in real life, they'd do just like I do... they'd let it show even to those who don't believe the way I do on politics. 

Heck, my own father and I were on opposite ends of the continuum, sometimes with both of our faces flat up against the endwalls of thought.... but we had a deep love and empathy toward each other. So there must be something redeemable about even a KKK member.
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#18
Here's the condensed skinny on BAA's points, since he asked for some clarification:

1) On Idris Elba since he seems to have glossed over it the first time I wrote it : 

"I think, if the franchise were to keep to the same premise as they have with the Daniel Craig films, Idris Elba would be fantastic.  He has a commanding presence, he's British, and he's buff enough for the part.  He's a great actor, too.  Elba could very well become the best Bond ever.  You should catch him in "The Wire" if you haven't already done so."

2) You don't get to define my opinion of what empathy & empathetic behavior means.  Empathy is not exclusively a progressive value IMO.  I don't know why you think I implied otherwise.  That is your own made-up assumption.

3) I see your opinions & behaviors as anything but a hand-up.  They are more like a boot down on the throat of anyone who, in your view, doesn't qualify as a white nationalist.
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#19
https://www.google.com/search?q=empathy&...8&oe=utf-8

I don't see how this could possibly be seen/felt as a "weakness".  In fact, the lack of it is a tremendous limitation.
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#20
To say that empathy is a progressive thing or assign it to be a liberal elitist is just plain ignorant.  Empathy is a human emotion of understanding that all people have in one way or another.  Now just in the purest sense it is a capacity to understand the thought and/or feeling of another person and their frame of reference.  Period.  It has zero to do with being left right up down black white lib dim con wing soc rep male trans gay female dog cat.
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